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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[whats intersting about this is that the cosmos want to overtake every service that has always belonged to the barber. But barbers (for the most part) are not interested in doing beauty services. So who&#039;s the aggressor here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whats intersting about this is that the cosmos want to overtake every service that has always belonged to the barber. But barbers (for the most part) are not interested in doing beauty services. So who&#8217;s the aggressor here?</p>
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		<title>By: Barberofdeville</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 02:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This problem is happening across the country as the joining of cosemetology and barbering is becoming more and more popular. The problem is that it is being decided by governor&#039;s who do not in fact know anything about the industry. Usually going off what they think. There is much disinformation in our own minds as professionals because we seem to forget our roots, why the laws are in place, etc. Take for instance the beleif that barbers infringed upon cosmetology in the seventy&#039;s trying to survive. Fact is cosmetology was started by barbers at A.B. Moler as an addition to barbering and called it &quot;cosmetic application&quot;. Prior to the early 1900&#039;s there was no such thing as cosmetology. Public safety, health, and the right to know the person working on you in a salon or barber shop is licensed and is held accountable for what happens in there shop and is duty bound to know there craft. It is for the public, not for our benefit.  Sadly the split happened, we saw a increase in creativity and knew techniques and we have seen decline in many areas in both industry sides in the past thirty years as a result as well. States are deciding to lower education requirements for both industry&#039;s every year including getting rid of practical exams. No continueing education mandates etc. Students going in think this is great. However it is killing our industry. The shave is more than scraping hair of someones face. It is a experiance that should be met with much respect and attention to detail. You can disfigure someone for life, give them a disease, or worse yet kill them. Chemical application of bleach and lightner can make someone bald for life and scar them forever. A rusty razor blade can give tetinous as a minimum. I suggest if we do end up combining  the two sciences that we increase the hours to  2400  with a 9 month apprenticeship, I suggest that the health department be in charge of sanitation inspection, That there be a practical after school graduation and another after apprenticeship time is up. Also continueing edu for sanitation and current techniques per year.) The more bad hair there is out there the less we are deemed worth as a whole. People stop caring and get less and less services. People already get less and less shaves because they have had a bad one or hear the horror story&#039;s of them. We are systematically destroying our profession by allowing more and more hacks out of school doing things they have no idea how to do. Prices go farther down. On that note all of you who work at a corporate chain for 10 bucks an hour are destroying our industry as well and dont even know it. Thats why we have to charge 15 to twenty for a haircut after all the education we go through and pay for. They can charge so little because they pay you so little. You have insurance free. Cracks me up i make over 3 thousand a month and do so even though i just started in a shop on commision without knew clientelle and its a barber shop. Yet you take home 500 after taxes after 2 weeks of working your ass of. I work three days a week. so how much is that insurance costing you? You make the hole in which you find yourself for working in such places.


As far as Razor cutting. Barbers are in fact trained in all manners of cutting hair including the use a feather razor. In fact up until recent years the haircutting course in most cosmetology schools is considered a barbering course.

Barbers
A &quot;barber&quot; is any person who engages in the practice of &quot;barbering&quot; for the public generally or for consideration.

As per the Kenyucky board of barbering defination:
&quot;Barbering&quot; is the practice upon the human neck and head, principally of shaving or trimming the beard or cutting the hair but includes also:

•Giving facial and scalp massage or treatments with oils, creams, lotions or other preparations, either by hand or any contrivance; 
•Singeing, shampooing, pressing, arranging, dressing or dyeing the hair or applying hair tonics; 
•and Applying to the neck or head cosmetics, lotions, powders, oils, clays or other preparations.

Dictionary:

Barber
 n.
One whose business is to cut hair, hair dressing or arranging of, and to shave or trim beards.


v., -bered, -ber·ing, -bers.

In fact in Kentucky its 1500 hours to graduate school
Then a bored practical including written exam.

During the practical you must perform a Mens Business taper(From nothing to hair at a 45% angle around the base perimeter of the head with no gaurds using only a taper comb for taper and barber comb for sides then a standard hair cutting comb for shear work on the top) the perform neck shave, upright Shampoo, A Straight razor face shave complete with hot towels and calling out which step of the fourteen your on as well as what stroke type, then a face massage calling out what part your on and correct manipulations, followed by your live model being checked and escorted out you will show and describe application of color, highlighting, and 3 perm rods on a maniquin. Then once all thats done and you pass in an our and twenty minutes you can apprenticeship for nine months and do this test again in less time for your full llicense. How many of the cosmetologist in this list can say they had 600 hours of nothing but straight razor shaves on live people, chemistry 350, haircutting 350 and, 200 sanitation. Not including apprentiship? How many cosmotolgists posting in this list has more training then that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This problem is happening across the country as the joining of cosemetology and barbering is becoming more and more popular. The problem is that it is being decided by governor&#8217;s who do not in fact know anything about the industry. Usually going off what they think. There is much disinformation in our own minds as professionals because we seem to forget our roots, why the laws are in place, etc. Take for instance the beleif that barbers infringed upon cosmetology in the seventy&#8217;s trying to survive. Fact is cosmetology was started by barbers at A.B. Moler as an addition to barbering and called it &#8220;cosmetic application&#8221;. Prior to the early 1900&#8242;s there was no such thing as cosmetology. Public safety, health, and the right to know the person working on you in a salon or barber shop is licensed and is held accountable for what happens in there shop and is duty bound to know there craft. It is for the public, not for our benefit.  Sadly the split happened, we saw a increase in creativity and knew techniques and we have seen decline in many areas in both industry sides in the past thirty years as a result as well. States are deciding to lower education requirements for both industry&#8217;s every year including getting rid of practical exams. No continueing education mandates etc. Students going in think this is great. However it is killing our industry. The shave is more than scraping hair of someones face. It is a experiance that should be met with much respect and attention to detail. You can disfigure someone for life, give them a disease, or worse yet kill them. Chemical application of bleach and lightner can make someone bald for life and scar them forever. A rusty razor blade can give tetinous as a minimum. I suggest if we do end up combining  the two sciences that we increase the hours to  2400  with a 9 month apprenticeship, I suggest that the health department be in charge of sanitation inspection, That there be a practical after school graduation and another after apprenticeship time is up. Also continueing edu for sanitation and current techniques per year.) The more bad hair there is out there the less we are deemed worth as a whole. People stop caring and get less and less services. People already get less and less shaves because they have had a bad one or hear the horror story&#8217;s of them. We are systematically destroying our profession by allowing more and more hacks out of school doing things they have no idea how to do. Prices go farther down. On that note all of you who work at a corporate chain for 10 bucks an hour are destroying our industry as well and dont even know it. Thats why we have to charge 15 to twenty for a haircut after all the education we go through and pay for. They can charge so little because they pay you so little. You have insurance free. Cracks me up i make over 3 thousand a month and do so even though i just started in a shop on commision without knew clientelle and its a barber shop. Yet you take home 500 after taxes after 2 weeks of working your ass of. I work three days a week. so how much is that insurance costing you? You make the hole in which you find yourself for working in such places.</p>
<p>As far as Razor cutting. Barbers are in fact trained in all manners of cutting hair including the use a feather razor. In fact up until recent years the haircutting course in most cosmetology schools is considered a barbering course.</p>
<p>Barbers<br />
A &#8220;barber&#8221; is any person who engages in the practice of &#8220;barbering&#8221; for the public generally or for consideration.</p>
<p>As per the Kenyucky board of barbering defination:<br />
&#8220;Barbering&#8221; is the practice upon the human neck and head, principally of shaving or trimming the beard or cutting the hair but includes also:</p>
<p>•Giving facial and scalp massage or treatments with oils, creams, lotions or other preparations, either by hand or any contrivance;<br />
•Singeing, shampooing, pressing, arranging, dressing or dyeing the hair or applying hair tonics;<br />
•and Applying to the neck or head cosmetics, lotions, powders, oils, clays or other preparations.</p>
<p>Dictionary:</p>
<p>Barber<br />
 n.<br />
One whose business is to cut hair, hair dressing or arranging of, and to shave or trim beards.</p>
<p>v., -bered, -ber·ing, -bers.</p>
<p>In fact in Kentucky its 1500 hours to graduate school<br />
Then a bored practical including written exam.</p>
<p>During the practical you must perform a Mens Business taper(From nothing to hair at a 45% angle around the base perimeter of the head with no gaurds using only a taper comb for taper and barber comb for sides then a standard hair cutting comb for shear work on the top) the perform neck shave, upright Shampoo, A Straight razor face shave complete with hot towels and calling out which step of the fourteen your on as well as what stroke type, then a face massage calling out what part your on and correct manipulations, followed by your live model being checked and escorted out you will show and describe application of color, highlighting, and 3 perm rods on a maniquin. Then once all thats done and you pass in an our and twenty minutes you can apprenticeship for nine months and do this test again in less time for your full llicense. How many of the cosmetologist in this list can say they had 600 hours of nothing but straight razor shaves on live people, chemistry 350, haircutting 350 and, 200 sanitation. Not including apprentiship? How many cosmotolgists posting in this list has more training then that?</p>
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		<title>By: Barberofdeville</title>
		<link>http://www.beautyschool.com/blog/beauty-training/texas-shaving-laws-cosmetologists-barbers-on-edge/comment-page-1#comment-8012</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This problem is happening across the country as the joining of cosemetology and barbering is becoming more and more popular. The problem is that it is being decided by governor&#039;s who do not in fact know anything about the industry. Usually going off what they think. There is much disinformation in our own minds as professionals because we seem to forget our roots, why the laws are in place, etc. Take for instance the beleif that barbers infringed upon cosmetology in the seventy&#039;s trying to survive. Fact is cosmetology was started by barbers at A.B. Moler as an addition to barbering and called it &quot;cosmetic application&quot;. Prior to the early 1900&#039;s there was no such thing as cosmetology. Public safety, health, and the right to know the person working on you in a salon or barber shop is licensed and is held accountable for what happens in there shop and is duty bound to know there craft. It is for the public, not for our benefit.  Sadly the split happened, we saw a increase in creativity and knew techniques and we have seen decline in many areas in both industry sides in the past thirty years as a result as well. States are deciding to lower education requirements for both industry&#039;s every year including getting rid of practical exams. No continueing education mandates etc. Students going in think this is great. However it is killing our industry. The shave is more than scraping hair of someones face. It is a experiance that should be met with much respect and attention to detail. You can disfigure someone for life, give them a disease, or worse yet kill them. Chemical application of bleach and lightner can make someone bald for life and scar them forever. A rusty razor blade can give tetinous as a minimum. I suggest if we do end up combining  the two sciences that we increase the hours to  2400  with a 9 month apprenticeship, I suggest that the health department be in charge of sanitation inspection, That there be a practical after school graduation and another after apprenticeship time is up. Also continueing edu for sanitation and current techniques per year.) The more bad hair there is out there the less we are deemed worth as a whole. People stop caring and get less and less services. People already get less and less shaves because they have had a bad one or hear the horror story&#039;s of them. We are systematically destroying our profession by allowing more and more hacks out of school doing things they have no idea how to do. Prices go farther down. On that note all of you who work at a corporate chain for 10 bucks an hour are destroying our industry as well and dont even know it. Thats why we have to charge 15 to twenty for a haircut after all the education we go through and pay for. They can charge so little because they pay you so little. You have insurance free. Cracks me up i make over 3 thousand a month and do so even though i just started in a shop on commision without knew clientelle and its a barber shop. Yet you take home 500 after taxes after 2 weeks of working your ass of. I work three days a week. so how much is that insurance costing you? You make the hole in which you find yourself for working in such places.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This problem is happening across the country as the joining of cosemetology and barbering is becoming more and more popular. The problem is that it is being decided by governor&#8217;s who do not in fact know anything about the industry. Usually going off what they think. There is much disinformation in our own minds as professionals because we seem to forget our roots, why the laws are in place, etc. Take for instance the beleif that barbers infringed upon cosmetology in the seventy&#8217;s trying to survive. Fact is cosmetology was started by barbers at A.B. Moler as an addition to barbering and called it &#8220;cosmetic application&#8221;. Prior to the early 1900&#8242;s there was no such thing as cosmetology. Public safety, health, and the right to know the person working on you in a salon or barber shop is licensed and is held accountable for what happens in there shop and is duty bound to know there craft. It is for the public, not for our benefit.  Sadly the split happened, we saw a increase in creativity and knew techniques and we have seen decline in many areas in both industry sides in the past thirty years as a result as well. States are deciding to lower education requirements for both industry&#8217;s every year including getting rid of practical exams. No continueing education mandates etc. Students going in think this is great. However it is killing our industry. The shave is more than scraping hair of someones face. It is a experiance that should be met with much respect and attention to detail. You can disfigure someone for life, give them a disease, or worse yet kill them. Chemical application of bleach and lightner can make someone bald for life and scar them forever. A rusty razor blade can give tetinous as a minimum. I suggest if we do end up combining  the two sciences that we increase the hours to  2400  with a 9 month apprenticeship, I suggest that the health department be in charge of sanitation inspection, That there be a practical after school graduation and another after apprenticeship time is up. Also continueing edu for sanitation and current techniques per year.) The more bad hair there is out there the less we are deemed worth as a whole. People stop caring and get less and less services. People already get less and less shaves because they have had a bad one or hear the horror story&#8217;s of them. We are systematically destroying our profession by allowing more and more hacks out of school doing things they have no idea how to do. Prices go farther down. On that note all of you who work at a corporate chain for 10 bucks an hour are destroying our industry as well and dont even know it. Thats why we have to charge 15 to twenty for a haircut after all the education we go through and pay for. They can charge so little because they pay you so little. You have insurance free. Cracks me up i make over 3 thousand a month and do so even though i just started in a shop on commision without knew clientelle and its a barber shop. Yet you take home 500 after taxes after 2 weeks of working your ass of. I work three days a week. so how much is that insurance costing you? You make the hole in which you find yourself for working in such places.</p>
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		<title>By: Aveda Institutes Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aveda Institutes Texas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about salon staff who razor cut hair without requiring any additional licensing. We are watching this as it affects our cosmetology programs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about salon staff who razor cut hair without requiring any additional licensing. We are watching this as it affects our cosmetology programs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Hair</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some may disagree with this post and that&#039;s okay, BUT, as of February 6, 2011: 

For Texas Barbers there are; 155 Barber Teachers, 41 Licensed Barber Schools, 13,375 Class A Barbers.

For Texas Cosmetologists there are; 4,708 Instructors, 409 Cosmetology Schools, 123,917 Cosmetology Operators.

Who should be held accountable for the differences in the numbers?  They Both have to complete 1,500 hours, and pass both written and practical exams.  

With a state population of 25.2 million people, why aren&#039;t there more Licensed Barbers?  

All I say is this: IF Texas offered Apprenticeships (which is how i was trained), and if Texas offered a Cosmetology to Barber (or vice-versa) crossover program (ex. a cosmo has to complete 750 hrs of Barber Training and take the exam), wouldn&#039;t that help to somewhat balance the shaving law issue?  Cosmo&#039;s who want to shave could easily enroll, complete the training, pass the test and get to work.  As of right now, Texas requires cosmo&#039;s to take the entire 1,500 hours, thus ending up having 3,000 hours of school when completed....

Now, here&#039;s some real talk.....&quot;Then why didn&#039;t cosmo&#039;s enroll in Barber school in the first place&quot;, you ask?  Remember, there are a limited # of Barber Teachers AND schools, creating a never ending &quot;wait list&quot;.  Also, there are a large # of people who get released from the prison system, and find ways to get the state gov&#039;t to pay for Barber School for free so guess who gets first dibs on an opening....??  The Barber Teacher know&#039;s the state&#039;s gonna give up the $$ quicker. And that&#039;s the game...    

ALSO, how many of the 41 Barber schools offer evening classes for those who have to work during the hours of 8am-5pm?  Most instructors I know in Texas are having trouble finding help to run the schools and the quality sometimes takes a back seat because 1-2 teacher&#039;s have to manage the school, instruct and discipline at the same time and its not easy: Teachers become overworked at times.

What&#039;s the real deal here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some may disagree with this post and that&#8217;s okay, BUT, as of February 6, 2011: </p>
<p>For Texas Barbers there are; 155 Barber Teachers, 41 Licensed Barber Schools, 13,375 Class A Barbers.</p>
<p>For Texas Cosmetologists there are; 4,708 Instructors, 409 Cosmetology Schools, 123,917 Cosmetology Operators.</p>
<p>Who should be held accountable for the differences in the numbers?  They Both have to complete 1,500 hours, and pass both written and practical exams.  </p>
<p>With a state population of 25.2 million people, why aren&#8217;t there more Licensed Barbers?  </p>
<p>All I say is this: IF Texas offered Apprenticeships (which is how i was trained), and if Texas offered a Cosmetology to Barber (or vice-versa) crossover program (ex. a cosmo has to complete 750 hrs of Barber Training and take the exam), wouldn&#8217;t that help to somewhat balance the shaving law issue?  Cosmo&#8217;s who want to shave could easily enroll, complete the training, pass the test and get to work.  As of right now, Texas requires cosmo&#8217;s to take the entire 1,500 hours, thus ending up having 3,000 hours of school when completed&#8230;.</p>
<p>Now, here&#8217;s some real talk&#8230;..&#8221;Then why didn&#8217;t cosmo&#8217;s enroll in Barber school in the first place&#8221;, you ask?  Remember, there are a limited # of Barber Teachers AND schools, creating a never ending &#8220;wait list&#8221;.  Also, there are a large # of people who get released from the prison system, and find ways to get the state gov&#8217;t to pay for Barber School for free so guess who gets first dibs on an opening&#8230;.??  The Barber Teacher know&#8217;s the state&#8217;s gonna give up the $$ quicker. And that&#8217;s the game&#8230;    </p>
<p>ALSO, how many of the 41 Barber schools offer evening classes for those who have to work during the hours of 8am-5pm?  Most instructors I know in Texas are having trouble finding help to run the schools and the quality sometimes takes a back seat because 1-2 teacher&#8217;s have to manage the school, instruct and discipline at the same time and its not easy: Teachers become overworked at times.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the real deal here?</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melissa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a cosmetology instructor (5 years) and cosmetologist have been a cosmetologist for about 15 years. I took cosmetology in high school and at that age you really don&#039;t know what you want to do. After working in many salons I found I liked mens cutting the most. I worked in a men&#039;s sport shop and I specialize in men&#039;s haircuts. Yes I know how to do clipper over comb and scissor over comb etc. (thats silly anyone would say that) and we do not tell our customers that we are barbers or try to pass off as barbers. The shop I worked for advertises that it is a place for men and boys that don&#039;t want to go to a beauty shop and deal with the long wait there because of women getting longer services. It is also a place that they do not have to deal with the smell of chemicals from perms etc. It is an alternative to going to a women&#039;s beauty shop and we specialize in men&#039;s haircutting. Many of the customers that go to cosmetologist would never go to a barber shop. The truth is most barbers are men and most cosmetologist are women (not always the case but this is a sterotype). Many men (although I do not agree with it because I always say its a haircut not a lapdance) will not let another man cut their hair and even if they would they would much rather a pretty female do it. I have went to help out in another store where no one knew me but I had a customer request because there were only men working and one other female.

In fact a place that I worked after the sports place I managed and I had two barbers that came to work on Sundays when the barber shop they worked in was closed. They were slower than all the cosmos and fades were not as smooth. They refused to do women&#039;s hair at all and threw off everything. We could not keep them because everyone else did not think it was fair that the cosmos got stuck with all the womens cuts which take a lot longer. They could do decent flattops which really are not in style anymore at all but when needed I can do a flattop that looks just as good as theirs. It takes me slightly longer than other cuts but I was still faster than them.

 Here is something else...I have never done a full bikini wax either. I am licensed to do one and I have seen it demonstrated, but if I were to start doing them I would take speciality classes just like I would if I wanted to start doing full shaves. Waxing is not something cosmetologist focus on during school the waxing customers go to the esthiticans (I know I prob spelled that wrong). I personally would not want to do a full shave just trim the neck and edge. Also I have used balding clippers to do triple zero fades (these actually get closer than that) and I would have to say those are probably more dangerous than a straight razor because the blades are so close it will try to pull a tiny piece of the skin into the clipper if the skin is not pulled tight. Sometimes even if it is it will still cut the skin or if I am having to pull up on the skin over areas I have already cut there could be tiny amounts of blood I don&#039;t even know are there. I would much rather just use a razor it is much more safe. 

I would also like to say as a cosmetology instructor yes we all the same thing about blood OSHA etc that barbers do. Our text book is for all states and Texas is one of the few that can not use a straight razor. OSHA is one of the first things that is taught. As far as everyone saying that cosmetologist are taking over and ruining their business it is a free market. You have the right to market how you please to win back your customers or keep them just as cosmetologist do. Cosmetologist do not owe you anything. I have also worked for barbers that you would never know are actually barbers because they do color, perms, etc. I never freaked out and thought they were taking away from cosmetologist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a cosmetology instructor (5 years) and cosmetologist have been a cosmetologist for about 15 years. I took cosmetology in high school and at that age you really don&#8217;t know what you want to do. After working in many salons I found I liked mens cutting the most. I worked in a men&#8217;s sport shop and I specialize in men&#8217;s haircuts. Yes I know how to do clipper over comb and scissor over comb etc. (thats silly anyone would say that) and we do not tell our customers that we are barbers or try to pass off as barbers. The shop I worked for advertises that it is a place for men and boys that don&#8217;t want to go to a beauty shop and deal with the long wait there because of women getting longer services. It is also a place that they do not have to deal with the smell of chemicals from perms etc. It is an alternative to going to a women&#8217;s beauty shop and we specialize in men&#8217;s haircutting. Many of the customers that go to cosmetologist would never go to a barber shop. The truth is most barbers are men and most cosmetologist are women (not always the case but this is a sterotype). Many men (although I do not agree with it because I always say its a haircut not a lapdance) will not let another man cut their hair and even if they would they would much rather a pretty female do it. I have went to help out in another store where no one knew me but I had a customer request because there were only men working and one other female.</p>
<p>In fact a place that I worked after the sports place I managed and I had two barbers that came to work on Sundays when the barber shop they worked in was closed. They were slower than all the cosmos and fades were not as smooth. They refused to do women&#8217;s hair at all and threw off everything. We could not keep them because everyone else did not think it was fair that the cosmos got stuck with all the womens cuts which take a lot longer. They could do decent flattops which really are not in style anymore at all but when needed I can do a flattop that looks just as good as theirs. It takes me slightly longer than other cuts but I was still faster than them.</p>
<p> Here is something else&#8230;I have never done a full bikini wax either. I am licensed to do one and I have seen it demonstrated, but if I were to start doing them I would take speciality classes just like I would if I wanted to start doing full shaves. Waxing is not something cosmetologist focus on during school the waxing customers go to the esthiticans (I know I prob spelled that wrong). I personally would not want to do a full shave just trim the neck and edge. Also I have used balding clippers to do triple zero fades (these actually get closer than that) and I would have to say those are probably more dangerous than a straight razor because the blades are so close it will try to pull a tiny piece of the skin into the clipper if the skin is not pulled tight. Sometimes even if it is it will still cut the skin or if I am having to pull up on the skin over areas I have already cut there could be tiny amounts of blood I don&#8217;t even know are there. I would much rather just use a razor it is much more safe. </p>
<p>I would also like to say as a cosmetology instructor yes we all the same thing about blood OSHA etc that barbers do. Our text book is for all states and Texas is one of the few that can not use a straight razor. OSHA is one of the first things that is taught. As far as everyone saying that cosmetologist are taking over and ruining their business it is a free market. You have the right to market how you please to win back your customers or keep them just as cosmetologist do. Cosmetologist do not owe you anything. I have also worked for barbers that you would never know are actually barbers because they do color, perms, etc. I never freaked out and thought they were taking away from cosmetologist.</p>
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		<title>By: profjoe</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading over all of your comments, and some I do agree with, all of you are missing the point on the legal issue of a Cosmetologist Shaving. It is not about Cosmetologist using a straight razor. It is about Cosmetologist being able to use a guarded, disposable saftey blade to trim a client’s hair to the length the client desires. It is about being able to do a service that is asked for by the client and not be handicapped by a discriminatory rule that will let a Tattoo Artist or any health care provider (with no training) trim a man&#039;s beard or neck hair to the length desired or needed with a disposable safety blade. It is about equality. And if the Barbers feel threatened by that they have much deeper problems. The Barber profession is not about a single tool. Tools are new and improved all the time. If your career centers on a specific tool and you refuse to upgrade your self and the use of new tools your career will be short.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading over all of your comments, and some I do agree with, all of you are missing the point on the legal issue of a Cosmetologist Shaving. It is not about Cosmetologist using a straight razor. It is about Cosmetologist being able to use a guarded, disposable saftey blade to trim a client’s hair to the length the client desires. It is about being able to do a service that is asked for by the client and not be handicapped by a discriminatory rule that will let a Tattoo Artist or any health care provider (with no training) trim a man&#8217;s beard or neck hair to the length desired or needed with a disposable safety blade. It is about equality. And if the Barbers feel threatened by that they have much deeper problems. The Barber profession is not about a single tool. Tools are new and improved all the time. If your career centers on a specific tool and you refuse to upgrade your self and the use of new tools your career will be short.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Hair</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ JOE-I feel the same with your views on apprenticeship.  Now, ideally, i feel that the barber who takes on apprentices should either be an instructor or at minimum, be able to demonstrate mastery to a panel of pro&#039;s of this great art.  Here&#039;s what irritates the hell outta me; I&#039;ve seen waaaay too many barbers earn their license, and get relaxed on professional practice as well as knowledge base.  I&#039;m all for schools, but you&#039;ve got to be a great school to truly continue to produce QUALITY Barbers, not merely quantity.  So, i understand that schools are against apprenticeships, however, there should be some accountability on their part, i.e., regulators could ensure the quality by monitoring pass/fail rates of schools.  If their pass rates aren&#039;t adequate, then they should take some type of responsibility for it....some my disagree, but I&#039;m one of the licensed pro&#039;s who still cares about those who come after me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ JOE-I feel the same with your views on apprenticeship.  Now, ideally, i feel that the barber who takes on apprentices should either be an instructor or at minimum, be able to demonstrate mastery to a panel of pro&#8217;s of this great art.  Here&#8217;s what irritates the hell outta me; I&#8217;ve seen waaaay too many barbers earn their license, and get relaxed on professional practice as well as knowledge base.  I&#8217;m all for schools, but you&#8217;ve got to be a great school to truly continue to produce QUALITY Barbers, not merely quantity.  So, i understand that schools are against apprenticeships, however, there should be some accountability on their part, i.e., regulators could ensure the quality by monitoring pass/fail rates of schools.  If their pass rates aren&#8217;t adequate, then they should take some type of responsibility for it&#8230;.some my disagree, but I&#8217;m one of the licensed pro&#8217;s who still cares about those who come after me.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m looking for a good barber college here in Texas.  I&#039;ve lived in 3 major cities in Texas, but everytime i go to inquire about enrolling in a Barber college, Its either GHETTO style, old, dirty and run down and/or not enough instructors.  It simply seems like all they want is my money.....  Also, I researched school exam results on the state of texas website....WOW.  Many students can pass the practical, but it takes an average of 2-3 tries to pass the written...WTF?   I now see why there&#039;s only 13,000-14,000 licensed barbers in Texas versus over 100,000 licensed cosmo&#039;s.  THESE BARBER SCHOOLS HAVE GOT TO GET IT TOGETHER!!!  With all due respect to the licensed barbers and instructors in Texas, please don&#039;t slack on the Barbering profession in this state.  geeez, just sayin&#039;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking for a good barber college here in Texas.  I&#8217;ve lived in 3 major cities in Texas, but everytime i go to inquire about enrolling in a Barber college, Its either GHETTO style, old, dirty and run down and/or not enough instructors.  It simply seems like all they want is my money&#8230;..  Also, I researched school exam results on the state of texas website&#8230;.WOW.  Many students can pass the practical, but it takes an average of 2-3 tries to pass the written&#8230;WTF?   I now see why there&#8217;s only 13,000-14,000 licensed barbers in Texas versus over 100,000 licensed cosmo&#8217;s.  THESE BARBER SCHOOLS HAVE GOT TO GET IT TOGETHER!!!  With all due respect to the licensed barbers and instructors in Texas, please don&#8217;t slack on the Barbering profession in this state.  geeez, just sayin&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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